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Post by Admin (Rob) on Oct 18, 2014 21:01:02 GMT
Excellent news Trev I have a fiver on you abandoning that principle and having a huge swap-out session before long Enjoy and let us know your findings
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Post by justchillin on Oct 18, 2014 21:22:19 GMT
Put me down for a monkey LOL
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Post by justchillin on Oct 19, 2014 6:53:39 GMT
Excellent news Trev I have a fiver on you abandoning that principle and having a huge swap-out session before long Enjoy and let us know your findings Still listening to my new TQs have not been able to pry myself away from listening to them and they are still amazing me Am I right in saying that you two don't think I have the patience and will power to add the up grades one by one instead of rushing in and connecting everything straight away? One could be tempted to say you betting against it possibly says more about both of you I am determined to wait at least 6/7 days before I add the SLIC I/Cs then another few days before I connect the ground box Who knows though you two could still be right yet we shall wait and see Take no notice of us pulling your leg Trev I will admit that I admire your willpower though because I would struggle to stick to 6/7 days before putting my next new component in
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Post by justchillin on Oct 19, 2014 17:32:00 GMT
Take no notice of us pulling your leg Trev I will admit that I admire your willpower though because I would struggle to stick to 6/7 days before putting my next new component in In fairness I have not managed it yet its still early days What's important is that you are enjoying the TQ Black cable, the rest can come along in due course when you are good and ready I am having a play with the new TQ Ultra Blue tonight
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Post by justchillin on Oct 19, 2014 19:42:18 GMT
What's important is that you are enjoying the TQ Black cable, the rest can come along in due course when you are good and ready I am having a play with the new TQ Ultra Blue tonight Am I right in saying the Ultra Blue are above Blue and below Black Will be interesting to hear what you think of them You are correct Trev, the Ultra Blue sits between the Blue and the Black in the TQ hierarchy. I have owned the Blue, the Black and I much preferred the Blue in my system. I was expecting the new cable to fit snugly between those two models, but read my opinions below: Listening to to the Ultra Blue cables at the moment and it would be honest to say I am shocked and surprised. They are certainly lively and vibrant, more so than I was expecting by a fair margin. But . . . . . . . Everything seems to be magnified and etched, almost "amplified" in certain ways. The bass is full, but fuller than I would expect, not boomy or with overhang, almost like a spotlight is shining on it to say "I am here, pay attention to me". Treble too also has that spotlight on it and while it finds tiny nuances and textures in the music, it shoves it in your face with some impact. In between the top and bottom, I can't quite make out how the midrange is coping because the bass and treble almost dominates so it throws a weird sonic fog around vocals. Guitars in my opinion are also affected and the rhythm guitarist has become rather hard to follow. Drums too have lost their leading edge attack for me with the absence of that sharp taut 'crack' as the snare drum is struck and you would be hard pushed sometimes to tell if a drumstick or a sausage is being used by the drummer, the kick drum is rather woolly and vague, lacking the weight and power one would normally expect, but, the cymbals do have a sweet metallic crispness to them. Ambience cues in a live venue are well portrayed. Overall then, there is a step up in performance from the Blue which is welcome and places it therefore into the correct place in the product hierarchy, with a livelier more detailed sound than it's sibling. Given that my opinion of the Black was that it is a softer more mellow sound than the Blue, the Black cable's real strengths are in delicacy and finesse rather than a snorting drag racer at full throttle. The Ultra Black however does manage attack, vibrancy, dynamics and dare I say it, a huge dollop of delicacy and finesse, but all of it is under control, in their correct scale and proportions, without smearing and with sophistication. A not insignificant step up in price too, so not a fair comparison to the other 3 cables being discussed. Like all things in the world of hi-fi cables, these are the results in my system, in my listening room and my own hearing acuity, so the variables present need to be considered accordingly. Would the Ultra Blue oust the Ultra Black from my system? Nope, not a chance. Would I choose the Ultra Blue over the Blue? Nope again, because although less lively overall than the Ultra Blue, it means to me personally that the Blues are a less fatiguing cable for extended listening and I sincerely wouldn't like to trade hours of listening pleasure for short term dynamics and firecrackers in the presentation. Some folks might view that differently and I have no issues with that at all.
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Post by justchillin on Oct 19, 2014 20:40:30 GMT
Thats a interesting write up pete I have only listened to the blacks and I like what I hear but given the chance I would like to listen to some more of TQs speaker cable range Can't remember if it was me or Rob that said there is no real natural progression up the ladder of the TQ model range as with other manufacturers, because they each have their own distinct 'flavours' of sound. I think that TQ are trying to remedy that subtly by having the "colours" (Blue, Black, Green) with their individual identity with the "Ultra" a step up in each level with their respective colours, as in Blue and Ultra Blue, Black and Ultra Black. We then have the Graphite which I have not had the pleasure of listening to, nor the Silver and Ultra Silver, the Blue Diamond and the Black Diamond, probably never will either as most of them I cannot afford. The huge problem I have with TQ is not the lack of specifications, but the lack of placing each cable into a logical hierarchy we can all understand i.e. what sonic differences should I expect between Blue, Black and Green for example. Yes there are reviews on the net you can read about individual models, but I have not seen one yet that summarises the entire range from top to bottom for consumers to make an informed choice, as in what gains should we get from choosing the Ultra Silver over the Silver or the Black Diamond?
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Post by Admin (Rob) on Oct 19, 2014 22:04:50 GMT
Glad you like the TQ Blacks Trev I don't have unlimited knowledge and experience in the world of hi-fi, but in my opinion given your choice of amp and speakers I didn't want to point you towards any of the TQ cables that have too much energy and vitality at the top end because I believed there would be a clash of personalities betwixt speaker cable and components. My guess was that the Blacks would blend in very well with your system and judging by your comments we have hit the nail firmly on the head. Splendid stuff My best guess again will be that the SLIC will also be a compliment to your system and the Entreq earthing box will be the icing on the cake. I can also forecast some late bed times in the coming days at Trev mansions LOL
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Post by justchillin on Oct 20, 2014 10:50:13 GMT
Glad you like the TQ Blacks Trev I don't have unlimited knowledge and experience in the world of hi-fi, but in my opinion given your choice of amp and speakers I didn't want to point you towards any of the TQ cables that have too much energy and vitality at the top end because I believed there would be a clash of personalities betwixt speaker cable and components. My guess was that the Blacks would blend in very well with your system and judging by your comments we have hit the nail firmly on the head. Splendid stuff My best guess again will be that the SLIC will also be a compliment to your system and the Entreq earthing box will be the icing on the cake. I can also forecast some late bed times in the coming days at Trev mansions LOL Yes I am very happy with the TQ Blacks Rob most impressed infact . It was gone 4am when I managed to pry myself away last night Rob then there was a CD playing again by 8.30am this morning and I'm not sensing a early night tonight yet either Trev . . . . . . too many late nights and you run the risk of falling asleep in your breakfast bowl one day like I did lol
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Rolling Stone
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System components: TEAC VRDS 25, Cairn Ezo amplifier, Focal Electra 1008be speakers
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Post by Rolling Stone on Oct 21, 2014 13:49:45 GMT
Trev . . . . . . too many late nights and you run the risk of falling asleep in your breakfast bowl one day like I did lol I hope no one laughed at you too much Pete you certainly have made me smile Yet another night still here at silly o'clock listening to CDs I can't get enough of these TQ Blacks the more I listen to them the more I realise just how much the previous cables were holding every thing back I have remained strong so far regarding playing with other bits but I sense tomorrow is the day I'm going to plug some thing else in rolleye0012the amount of hours I have put in listening to them since I wired them up saturday morning I think I can safely say I know what they sound like now The TQ cables are a world away from the QED's you had before, so it just shows that having the right cables is important to a system's final sound. I think the days of off-the-reel generic "industrial" cables being used for hi-fi applications are going to become a thing of the past now we have the likes of TQ, SLIC and some very interesting new designs appearing on the USA market and elsewhere in the world.
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Post by justchillin on Oct 22, 2014 12:00:16 GMT
The TQ cables are a world away from the QED's you had before, so it just shows that having the right cables is important to a system's final sound. I think the days of off-the-reel generic "industrial" cables being used for hi-fi applications are going to become a thing of the past now we have the likes of TQ, SLIC and some very interesting new designs appearing on the USA market and elsewhere in the world. Yes indeed Dom the sound I'm getting now is a world away from what I was getting before from the QEDs as far as the sound per pound is concerned I couldn't be happier Goodness me, a happy audiophile!! If you thought the Yeti and Big Foot were elusive, try finding one of these Nice to read about someone enjoying their system to the full
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